Category Archives: Batteries and Chargers

Tired LiPo’s – How to Retire and Dispose…..!!

Even beginners to our sport encounter this debate pretty quickly. LiPos versus LiFes…

I was a little alarmed and disturbed to find my lovely 1800mah LiPos had all suddenly become puffy at the same time. Just two years old…The plastic covering on each battery seemed to be puffed with air/gas not fluid.

Pity – but I’ve realised now I’ve always been anxious about them in the house. They had an easy life – 18C-20C controlled temperature storage, not all that many charges, and always kept in double explosion bags. They have only ever been charged on a LiPo specific intelligent charger at 1amp max, and it cuts off when they’re full.

Mostly I’ve been confident about having them in the house, until hilarious friends email me YouTubes of Teslas catching fire……

So how to best dispose of puffy or leaky Lipos??

I thought perhaps puffiness with just air in there, no fluid,… was possibly OK… but see below. However, everyone agrees that LiPos can’t go in the household waste, not at the supermarket battery collection points either (not for Lithiums). If Waitrose caught fire, I’d never hear the end of it. They need to go to the official battery disposal place at the town dump.

You can’t just take them to the dump though. Best advice I could find was;-

1/ Deplete them totally.

I found they would go to zero current if attached to a receiver for 12-15 hours each. Alarmingly, instead of reducing the gas inside there, they actually expanded further. Blimey. I thought they were going to go “pop”… Like little balloons.

2/ Immerse them in salt water OUTSIDE for 48 hours.(see photo)

I found the most distant corner of the garden.

This is meant to neutralise the connectors and chemicals. Well, HUGE surprise – the water around these apparently “probably still OK” batteries turned a pile milky blue – lots of sediment in the bottom of the jar. So there really was something leaky in there… I threw that down a street drain.

3/ Now they are safe to go to the dump…..

UPDATE : Waitrose do indeed take Lithiums (see their website) – they just ask you to tape over the terminals before you pop them in the collection point.

I’m going to replace them with Hacker 1300mah LiFe’s, same weight to within a gram, same XT60 connectors. More on that later when they go through trials. I have maybe another 6 LiPos in the explosion bag from different manufacturers. I shall be really watching and inspecting them closely.

Transmitter Batteries – Smart Charging ??

When you recharge your AAs and pop them in your transmitter, what voltage do you see?? I’m getting 5.4v… I’m sure it used to be more. Do you get similar?

I was on the verge of simply buying a large box of AA batteries from the super market and burning my way through them – throwing the old ones away, except it’s not allowed of course. I popped in a set of brand new Energiser AAs straight from Waitrose and the transmitter said 5.6v….

For a long while I’ve used the “smart charger” that came with my battery set from Amazon. I’ve got to thinking the charger is not “smart” at all. It just has a symbol that blinks and eventually stays lit when it claims the battery is full. Not very intelligent or smart. I suspect it also does not stop charging at that point…

I got to wondering what my favourite LIPO/LIFE charger manufacturer (SKYRC) would make of all this. I’m proper pleased with my LiFe/LiPo charger – a SkyRC T100. To my delight, they make a AA/AAA series of intelligent chargers. You can pay seriously mad money for units that will manage charging of 8 batteries and upwards… 8 at a time would be nice. However, I set a budget ceiling and went for a 4 cell unit.

It manages each battery independently, and you can adjust current, voltage target and a few other things. Critically when it reaches the voltage target, it goes into standby mode – I really wanted that (safety).

If you are inclined, you can manage it from your phone (app).

The only pain is that a PD power unit (whatever that might be) is extra – not sure why but that added another £17 on top.

The transmitter is up to 5.9v after one attempt.

It’ll also re-condition batteries and trickle charge if you want. Great.

https://www.skyrc.com/nc3000pro/

Battery Voltages Explained…!!

I was looking today for more information as to how low Receiver Batteries should be allowed to go before pulling the boat out for a fresh battery. The numbers above are per cell, so as most of our batteries are 2 cell, just double the above numbers.

This was a super explanation and you can read it in full here

https://nexusbatterysystems.com/blogs/battery-knowledge-base/battery-voltage-explained-nominal-charged-minimum-and-cut-off-levels