Category Archives: Batteries and Chargers

Batteries for Beginners 3 – Connecting Your Battery To Your Boat…!

Hopefully your new boat comes with batteries and is all set ready to go. Your battery is in top condition?!

What if it isn’t?? What if you anyway decide to treat your new boat to some new batteries!!??

Well, a big barrier to get over right away is the answer to “What Connector?” . When you go battery buying you’ll hopefully see that you can select the type of connector you want (£), or if you are unlucky enough to find they only list a connector that you don’t want, then call them. For a few pounds, you’ll eventually get the battery-connector configuration that you want.

Can you look at the photo above…. that’s the One Metre I borrowed to get started. I adored that boat.

Can you see that tiny flat little red connector? I think it is called a JST (“Japan Solderless Terminal”). The part you see is the female half, so the red male part is really tiny. I have a feeling that it can carry a current of 5 amps maximum, but I may be misremembering and it’s less than that.

The in-thing in the world of radio sailing connectors seems to be XT connectors. I’ve only been sailing a short while and I already find I have two connector types. My Marblehead has XT30 and my One Metre has XT60. So what is going on?

The XT60 connector on my One Metre.

The XT30 connector on the Marblehead.

The ratings for these connectors is 60 amps maximum on XT60 and 30amps on XT30. The other real world difference is that the XT60 is a jolly sight easier to plug and unplug – big fingers, small plugs….

What’s going on ?

Honestly in that ten year old boat I borrowed I never once thought I couldn’t sheet in fast enough. So what’s happening? Well, bigger is better and batteries can indeed pump out more amps at a time than they did ten years back. Batteries are improving very quickly. still – if you stick 30amps up your finger you’ll get one hell of a tickle, not to mention 60amps.

Did you read Paul Elvstrom’s “Expert Dinghy Racing” when you were growing up. There’s a story in there about winning a race by throwing in rapid gybes in succession on the run to accelerate the boat. The eagle eyed amongst you following the 2023 IOM European Championship will have read that the winner was doing the same thing as Elvstrom. To do this he had a bigger drum on his sheet winch, so that he could throw the boom across quickly. To drive the bigger drum… you need more current. You may indeed need LIPO capability aboard but your connectors need to handle it safely. So this may be a strategic direction of travel !!

Anyway, each of my two boats has XT connectors of different sizes.

  • so my batteries need to be dedicated to each boat….
  • when I buy my batteries I need to be careful to buy the correct connector ends. I’m told they are very challenging to solder yourself (see YouTube). Things change all the time, but when I bought Overland LIPO batteries the connector was a simple drop-down option on their website. When I ordered LIFE from Vapex, I had two ring them up to get the connectors I needed put on before purchase.

Why might we not have XT60 ready on the Marblehead – weight weighty weight !!

There are also implications for how you charge batteries with differing connectors. More about that in the next post!!

So think ahead! Good luck getting into this one!!

Batteries For Beginners Two – Storage Bags…!

In our last article about Batteries in Radio Sailing we talked a little about safety and fire risk.

Look in this photo above. There is a bag within a bag. They are both made of the same type of weird robust material. The inner bag is like a simple envelope with a velcro sealed over-flap. You’ll see simply loads of people using exactly this bag design to store their batteries. My little pouch bag will take three IOM batteries, then it’s pretty much full. The cost of the bag is minor.

I figured I needed more than one bag as there are more than three batteries here at home. The outer bag in the photo is more like a small picnic hamper with a zipper lid. It was about £15 on Amazon. I keep everything in there really. £15 compared to the cost of fire damage or your marriage breaking down is trivial. Buy one or more. I keep a bag within a bag because then I worry less.

Amazon claimed the outer bag was “explosion proof”. What I really liked about the Amazon bag is that it has a little port in the bottom so that you can get a charging cable in – and charge the battery INSIDE the explosion proof bag. I’m going to write some more later about when you are at peak risk … and while you are charging is about the highest and most regular risk you have.

Just get a bag and try it.

See what you think.

Batteries for Beginners – One !!

Around Christmas time, SM suggested that I write some entries here about batteries and electric power. It’s a little daunting, as I suspect SM knows more about this than I do… but here goes…

Mostly I want to write about four things

  • Batteries, identifiers….LIPO v LIFE, safety and all that
  • In-boat connectors
  • Battery Damage causes
  • Charging

It won’t be long after you start radio sailing that somebody starts chatting to you about batteries and especially about the LIPO v LIFE debate. There’s loads of other topics in the same area that divide opinion too.

Let’s start about the batteries though. There will be other materials available inside the batteries, but in the main, in radio sailing we need rechargeables, and either LIPO or LIFE type. As far as I can see, they need their own charging regimes but more of that later.

Before any of us went radio sailing, we would look for two things on the outside of a battery that normal humans buy in Tesco

– the physical size represented by a code like AA or AAA or C2032

– the voltage

The is hilariously misleading for radio sailing because firstly the physical size and shape doesn’t seem to have a code at all , as far as I can see. They vary a lot. They sometimes but not always tell you how many cells are in there. Second, all mine have the voltage on like 6.6v or 7.4v… but when you charge them up they always accept more than this voltage. Baffling, but I set it aside. It’s a guideline.

The other number which could be interesting, that is how much sustained current you can pull out of them measured in amps. Like some kind of measure of how fast you can pump petrol out of a car’s tank – something like that. I think the principle is that LIPO can deliver higher amps than LIFE can. This number is not written on the outside of any of my batteries, but we shall return to its importance in a later news post.

I thought with electric cars the best advice is keep the engine charged between 10% and 80%. By the way, at east two of my little instruction sheets for my sailing batteries say to recharge them at 50% of the nominal voltage. I’m trying to stick by that.

The battery material type should be written on the outside, else how would you know what charging regime you need. At least two of my batteries do not say what’s inside, though I know they are LIPO. I might have to put my own labels on!

Have you ever looked on google or YouTube using the search term “battery fire”? Not to pick on Tesla cars, but quite a few of those come up. I feel they are being picked on unfairly! Well, anyway, that basically is what the radio sailing chatter can be about too – LIPOs have a reputation for fire damage. When I acquired three LIPO batteries for the IOM they came in a fire proof bag…. for heaven’s sake. Allegedly, LIFE batteries are safer in that regard.

I thought it was all over played, then the very first expert I asked about it at the Club said, “oh yes – I’ve had some catch fire”. I was stunned. So, to form a better opinion I decided to buy both types and see how they perform. I keep mine in a fire proof bag and I keep that inside an explosion-proof bag. Honestly. More on that later, but the bags are cheap enough and I want to stay married.

Of the numbers stamped on the batteries (my battery collection has two to four numbers stamped on the outside), the ones to look at are (i) voltage – searching for analogies, but think of it as a bit like octane in petrol. It is some kind of expression of power – but firstly all mine charge a tad higher than labelled, and the voltage available anyway changes constantly during your sailing day. (ii) the next number you want is m.a.h. – milliamp hours. It is kind of a measure of how much petrol you have in the car tank. Sail gently and the battery lasts longer, adjust the controls more and you battery lasts less time on the water. It’s how much total energy you allegedly have on board.

More to follow….